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Ritualistic rape…
« on: December 07, 2008, 01:56:23 PM »
I read this crazy non-fiction book not too long ago and there was a bit that would be right at home around here… it was one of those Cinderella type stories where a poor yet exceptionally beautiful woman was forced into marriage. In those days women were pretty much chattel… a man’s property… Now this one had no family to speak of but did have someone who was more or less a guardian. He was a crude fellow, just like the man he’d chosen to marry her off to. And there was a bit where she explained how it must be proven that she was in fact a virgin… not just to her husband, but all must witness the deflowering… And seeing the men get rowdy and drunk, the husband is likely to rape her surrounded by a cheering crowd…

Talk about a ritual… I am not sure if this was a true occurrence… But there are weird customs and rituals out there so I wouldn’t be surprised if there was something similar… There was a group of people who’d use a white sheet for the first time (in private) and display it the next day before burning it… a sign of conquest I suppose… Anyone heard of these or any other strange and pervy rituals?

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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2008, 08:12:19 PM »
While I haven't heard specifically of it happening in front of a crowd... in the dark recesses of my memory, I recall some medieval european culture that had a similar thing... where the husband and wife retreated to the room, and someone was in the room to verify it was consumated and that the virginal blood was on the sheets.... I just don't recall where or when this was...
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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 11:19:38 AM »
I thought I'd read once, a long time ago in a far off land, in one culture the actual family (maybe only the bride's father?  or maybe the whole family) would watch the consumation.  Rather than a rape-type scenario, though, it was more of a ceremonial type thing.  Or maybe it was just a twisted book I read a while back too.  Since truth is stranger than fiction, I tend to think these things probably still take place in some cultures.  And I'm sure those cultures would think us odd to have the audacity to consumate behind closed doors without an audience. 

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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 03:35:52 AM »
I have heard of some weird things done to women in the name of maintaining their virginity until they are married off... stitching that area closed for one... and then the husband cutting the stitches open on the wedding night...
circumsizing a woman so she doesnt climax during sex... she just focuses on pleasuring her husband...
I've also heard about displaying the bedsheet the day after a marriage is consumated... especially in asian cultures... hell this still plays a role in a lot of asian porn these days... ie the blood flow in hentai down the attackers shaft... the blood drops on the floor or bed sheet... the mixture of blood and cum leaking out of the victim as she lays their crying...

Now if we are talking ritualistic rape you just have to look up serial rapist on google and you can see most have some form of ritual when it comes to choosing a victim... stalking her and then attacking her... Their victims will all have similar charicteristics and demenours...
Hell we all knowthe type of victim we would choose so its not so far fetched to see that we would all become ritualistic in our attacks if we ever snapped... we all have a prefered fantasy and we would go to extremes to make her act the way we want... dress the way we want and say the things we want... and that ritual would progress with time... to increase the please...  :evilgrin:

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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2009, 02:16:01 AM »
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I thought I'd read once, a long time ago in a far off land, in one culture the actual family (maybe only the bride's father?  or maybe the whole family) would watch the consumation.  Rather than a rape-type scenario, though, it was more of a ceremonial type thing.  Or maybe it was just a twisted book I read a while back too.  Since truth is stranger than fiction, I tend to think these things probably still take place in some cultures.  And I'm sure those cultures would think us odd to have the audacity to consumate behind closed doors without an audience. 

Hmmm... methinks we've read similar twisted books :mis: Lol but in the book I read, the wife was definately not into the husband... So it was pretty much spousal rape :nod:

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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 01:21:08 AM »
The blood on the bedsheet was an important part of some European cultures rituals around marriage. Apparently the early Scicilean(?) Mafia would appear at marriage ceremonies and demand sums of "protection" money - to protect the brides virginity! If the money wasn't forthcoming then the Mafia would take her virginity there and then in front of the guests!
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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 05:44:22 PM »
I dunno if this is really on topic, but what I always thought was hot was the scene in Interview with a Vampire, where a young woman (Laure Marsac) is forced on stage and stripped naked in front of a large crowd. She is then bitten and then eaten on stage. It's always been a fantasy of mine to reenact that but instead of eating her, just rape her on stage in front of the crowd

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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 02:04:00 PM »

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Droit de seigneur (pronounced [d?wa d(?) s??œ?]), French for the lord's right, is a term now popularly used to describe an alleged legal right allowing the lord of an estate to take the virginity of the estate's virgins.

The existence of a "right of the first night" in the Middle Ages was first disputed in the 19th century. Although most historians today would agree that there was no authentic custom in the Middle Ages, disagreement continues about the origin, the meaning, and the development of the widespread popular belief in this alleged right and the actual prevalence of symbolic gestures referring to this right.[2]

The origin of this popular belief is difficult to trace. In the 16th century, Hector Boece referred to the decree of the Scottish king Evenus III that "the lord of the ground shall have the maidenhead of all virgins dwelling on the same." Legend has it that Saint Margaret of Scotland procured the replacement of jus primae noctis with a bridal tax called merchet. But King Evenus III did not exist, and Boece's account included much clearly fictional material.[3]

In literature from the 13th and 14th centuries and in customary law texts of the 15th and 16th centuries, jus primae noctis is also closely related to specific marriage payments of (formerly) unfree people. There is good reason to assume that this relation goes back to the early medieval period and has its roots in the legal condition of unfree people and Gaelic marriage customs.[3][4]

The ius primae noctis was reflected in symbolic gestures which lords developed and used as humiliating signs of superiority over the dependent peasants in a time of disappearing status differences.

Some scholars have speculated that the jus primae noctis of the Medieval European tradition did exist, and that it might have been similar to defloration rituals in Ancient Mesopotamia or 13th century Tibet (Evans 1979:30). In Mesopotamian literature, the right of the first night, in the sense of the privilege of a powerful man to deflower another man's woman, is a very old topos, present at least as early as Epic of Gilgamesh (circa 2000 B.C.). Although the literary descriptions from ancient Mesopotamia and the legends of ius primae noctis in Medieval Europe stem from very different cultural traditions, they meet in the fact that, in both cases, persons of high social rank were involved.

Herodotus writes that virgins in 5th century BC Babylon were obliged to prostitute themselves in the temple of Ishtar, allowing a stranger to deflower them before they were allowed to marry (Herodotus I.199).

The droit de seigneur is rumored to have been practiced by the Mongol Yuan dynasty during its rule in China; however, there is no evidence for this claim.

Marco Polo, in his Il Milione, observed that in 13th century Tibet, "The people of these parts are disinclined to marry young women as long as they are left in their virgin state, but on the contrary require that they should have had commerce with many of the opposite sex." (Evans 1979:30) Scholars have argued by analogy to the Tibetan custom recorded by Marco Polo and similar customs from other cultures that the ius primae noctis of Medieval Europe and the Mesopotamian custom alluded to in the Epic of Gilgamesh were not instances of the tyrant imposing his will on his female subjects, but a kind of "ritual defloration," in which "the community rallied around to support the individual," i.e., the deflowerer (Evans 1979:30).

The droit de seigneur was also practiced in the Ottoman Empire. As late as the early 20th century, Kurdish chieftains (khafirs) in Western Armenia reserved the right to bed Armenian brides on the their wedding night


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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 02:38:54 PM »
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The Germanic "mundium" payment of the free bridegroom to his bride or her family implied the right to take possession of the bride by means of taking her home and having the first sexual intercourse with her. If an unfree man in the early Middle Ages wanted to marry a free woman, he not only had to ask his lord’s permission; it was also the lord who paid the mundium for the servant's bride as a loan. The unfree man was not legally entitled (position)???to act independently from his lord, and by paying the mundium, the lord acquired not only a new subject and wife for his servant but also (in a very formal sense) the right to take the woman home and to perform the "Beilager", a symbolic custom representing the first sexual intercourse with the bride. The Germanic "Beilager" was an important part of the Germanic marriage ritual that was later integrated into the ecclesiastical ritual of marriage

However, actual intercourse between lord and bride was never part of the (legal) marriage procedure. The lord obtained no marital rights from his role as procurator for the unfree servant bridegroom, but simply the right to have his loan for the mundium repaid. This repayment was due when the couple’s own daughters married. Later, different marriage payments were merged and fused together and changed their function, but the idea of a lord's privilege on the first night apparently remained connected to these payments. This new explanation of the relation between medieval marriage-payments and the literary theme of the right of the first night sheds some light on the obscure origin of a widespread popular belief during the European Middle Ages that such a right had formerly existed and was strongly connected to customary payments or fines like merchet, amobr, cullage, vadimonium, etc




The best example of these symbolic gestures stems from the Catalonian Pyrenees. At the end of the 15th century, Catalonia witnessed the only successful peasant revolt of the Middle Ages. The background of this struggle for freedom was a conflict between the lords and the "pagesos del remensas" (Freedman 1993: 39-54). This was a class of unfree peasants forced to pay certain humiliating taxes to their lords. In a text of mediation between the two parties, the peasants accused the lords of practising symbolic acts on the wedding night to demonstrate their power and lordship. It is said that they climbed on the bed with the bride and passed over her. Furthermore the lords were accused of having abused these symbolic acts for purpose of sexual harassment. The lords, on the other hand, denied all this, but at the same time promised to abolish all such coercive customs. (Hinojosa 1905: 367 with reference to Bibliotheca del Escorial. Mss. ij d 15, fol. 27-31v° [1]. cf. Schmidt-Bleibtreu 1988: 170, n. 52; Freedman 1991: 178-253). The central idea of this text is further supported by several other texts from this region (Wettlaufer 1994: 284-285; 1999: 281-292).

This is the only medieval testimony indicating anything like actual sexual relations between the lords and the peasant brides in the context of the right of the first night, and the evidence concerns only sexual harassment, not sexual intercourse. We can infer from this example that in the late medieval period, a time when socioeconomic status differences were diminishing, the lords used the jus primae noctis as a sign (display) of superiority over their dependent and unfree peasants. In this context, the function of rape as a means of humiliating the husband or male relatives of a raped women should not be underestimated (Cf. Devereux 1978: 185ff. Duerr 1993: 428f.). The symbolic use of the "right" was known in several European regions; in France, for example, the lord could put a naked leg onto the bride's bed (droit de cuissage). In this respect the jus primae noctis in the later Middle Ages was "real", even though there is not a single proven case of actual sexual relations between bride and lord in the name of this "right".




Most examples from India and South America involve chiefs and priests performing that service on brides or young girls. One good example of the custom executed by chiefs stems from Hawaii: "With many of the families, who were admitted to the royal court because of blood relationship, the virginity of the daughters was strictly guarded and when a girl became of a marriageable age and was spoken for as a wife, she was taken to the chief who would remove her virginity 'Na ke ali'i e moe mua' (For the chief to sleep with her for the first time). After that she was free to be married. Should an offspring result from this union with the chief, the husband would be proud of and make much of that child because the baby was the offspring of his 'Ali'i'" (Craighill Handy & Kawena Pukui 1972). In India, Brahmins are often described as having performed this ritual. Hamilton (1727: 308), for example, writes in his "New Account of the East Indies": "when the Zamorin marries, he must not cohabit with his bride till the Nambudri, or chief priest, has enjoyed her, and he, if he pleases, may have three nights of her company, because the first fruits of her nuptials must be an holy oblation to the god she worships. And some of the nobles are so complaisant as to allow the clergy the same tribute, but the common people cannot have that compliment paid to them, but are forced to supply the priests' places themselves."
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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 02:49:03 PM »

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We are accustomed to think that every man wants to take his wife's "pure and innocent girl." But the statistics suggests something else: more than thirty per cent of modern men virgins hand, and every fifth with defloration serious problems.In the city council in 1507 the French town of Amiens passed a new law: "My husband has no right to share a bed with his wife in the first wedding night without the permission of his Senior before Senior itself not to use a bed with his wife divide their vassal." If such an order came out today or even a hundred, two hundred years ago, human rights and the new husbands would certainly staged a protest march. But in the early 16 century, above the legal act of simple townspeople met with a storm of joy! More than that - the husband-vassal also tried to thank his Senior material for "leader". How to explain this phenomenon? Alberto Gomez, a researcher Middle Ages, argues: all in the cause of superstitions, traditions while among the people. In the old days, when in Europe prospered shamanistic cults, defloration engaged exclusively "specialists". It was believed that only a sorcerer can deprive her innocence without "side effects" like the wrath of the gods and spirits. For instance, the ancient Scandinavian tribes existed the custom. With the onset of darkness before the first wedding night, the wise men in the disposal of virgin forest, is fueling the fire and brought the goddess Frie sacrifice - elk or wild boar. And only after this girl from committing ritual soitie.If sex is not accompanied by a gap of pristine Worthless and bleeding, the victim recognized not adopted. True, allowed a second attempt. Well, if the second "approach" ended in failure, the girl was proclaimed rejected the gods and thereby dooming to perpetual loneliness. Marriage dissolved in such cases, the failed husband and look for a new spouse. In the Middle Ages, the role of the wise men inherited feudal lord, with serfs defloration girls was not only his right but also a sacred duty. French ethnographer Pierre Gordon writes that Counts and Dukes had to defloration a year before hundreds of virgins. Well, if the Senior age is no longer able to perform such feats, its function to assume someone's sons or servants. Right first wedding night and distributed to the monks. For example, canon Lyon Cathedral invited as a city deflorationmens their subjects. Stories known case in which the monks in a monastery Piedmont appealed to the local bishop with a request to save them from such a procedure. The hierarchy has gone and replaced them towards the right the first night compensation defloration cash payment "for friendship." In the Papuan tribe arunto feudal lords and monks and was not mention. All deflorations brunt falls on the shoulders of husbandly friends. Shortly before the wedding, the bridegroom had requested two-three buddies to steal the bride and disrupt red flower her innocence. Those fulfil the wish of Comrade: removed the girl in the forest more often with the help was defloration stone knife, then committed ritual sexual intercourse bride and returned to their parents.Since then, all male tribe can come in her house and "try out" the new woman. Once the flow of willing exhaustive newlyweds played a wedding. Such altruism has flourished in other parts of the globe. French explorer Jacques Marsiro describes the marriage custom of the Marquesas Islands: "A young wife falls, puts his head on her husband's knees. It gives guests a special sign. All men are invited to the wedding, arranged in a conversation tunes, and in turn, in order of seniority commit sexual intercourse with the newlyweds. " Similar ritual existed among Australian Aborigines. And living in Papua Dani tribe, and in Central Africa. But some peoples of Siberia and the extreme north have been taken to invite defloration "Other" - the representative of another ethnic group. And such hospitality was purely selfish reasons: it was believed that together with the blood of a virgin Disembogue anger at the man ancestors. And if the ceremony holds "Other", and he takes the fire themselves!Many people committed defloration women - usually the oldest representative of the genus, and sorcerer. In the course they went wide variety of handy tools. For example, the sorcerer from the Central African tribe mbotu denied the "sacrifice" innocence acute needle made from the bones of any animal. In the Philippines, parents are invited "defloration womens", when the daughter does not perform more and ten. A smudge from the African tribe girls often forgives with the innocent already four to five years. Sometimes as parents spoke deflorationmens virgin. Eighteen months hundreds of years ago there was the custom in Peru, where the mother has publicly denies virginity his daughter. And among the Malay and ending batt tribe living on the island of Sumatra, the right of first wedding night belonged to the father. I must say that not always and not everywhere girl needed defloration. Polish sexologist S. Kinessa writes that in some social and religious segments of India, Brazil and Chile did not exist the concept of "virginity". Mothers so carefully to urge their daughters that destroys Worthless virginity at an early age. And if a girl maintain virginity before marriage and defloration was forced to commit a man to be that bride badly brought up: it, saying, not in compliance with the rules of personal hygiene and dirty grew.
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Re: Ritualistic rape…
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 12:58:51 PM »
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Among the Tahu tribe of western Mexico, the girls designated for the sacred office of priestess were held in high esteem and were consecrated with much ceremony at great annual festivals, when all tribal chiefs of the area were present. After the public celebration, with songs and dances, the girl retired to a special hut "and the chiefs went one by one to lie with her and all the others who wish to do so follow them" (Castaneda de Nacera, quoted in Briffault, Vol. 3, p. 214). Having thus become priestesses and ritual prostitutes, for the rest of their lifetimes these women never refused anyone who payed a certain amount. Even after they may have married, permitted after a number of years, this obligation undertaken at their consecration did not end.


In India, temple prostitution was a requirement for all Santal girls at Telkupi Ghat, who were under the obligation to be a public prostitute at least once in their lives; similar to the duties prescribed for all women of Babylon. Among the caste of weavers in Tamil Nadu, it is regarded as proper and normal that at least one daughter of the family be dedicated to the service of the god as one of his hierodules, and the girls are vowed to such service from birth. Southern India also knows the bayaderes, or nautch girls, who are part prostitutes part temple dancers similar to the devadasis; all of which are so-called wives of god - and/or the king.
A special case is the Kumari puja, a ritual defloration involving young virgins, and the Nila Tantra requires that such a kumari (virgin) be given a "fee in gold, silver or pearls" (Banerjee, p. 251). Apart from this, the involved devotee is held responsible for all expenses of the girl’s future marriage.
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Re: Ritualistic rape…
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